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		<title>By: MattNYC</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.littyhoops.com/2008/09/22/dick-rodded/comment-page-1/#comment-809</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Litty:

I&#039;m more of a baseball guy myself, but do enjoy breaking down some football Xs and Os from time to time.  

The spread works well in college because many teams simply don&#039;t have the depth to field 5-6 guys on the field that can run (and shuck blockers and tackle well enough at the same time) to hang with an offense that is putting 5 or 6 fast little buggers out there -- including the QB.  Combined with the nascent not-yet-professional versions of many college defensive lineman (not quite fast enough yet) it allows for a QB to get adequate time to exploit the mismatches all over the field or to take off running when everyone is worried about the 5 guys running routes.

In the pros it&#039;s rare to see a defense that doesn&#039;t have a plethora of guys that can play the run well and that also run 4.5 forties with all the necessary quickness to stop a run and passing attack.  And so the conventional wisdom has been that a spread offense&#039;s strengths are mostly nullified in the NFL.  

But a funny thing has started happening: teams are running it anyway -- and having success.  The Patriots are an unfair example, blessed with so much talent (both on the field and on the sidelines), but still they perfected a pass happy version of the spread last year and set all sorts of records in the process.  Sure Tom Brady still lined &#039;em up in the pro-set and I-form sometimes -- but most of their success was from the 3-4-5 wide shotgun.

This past week the Dolphins turned the tables on the Pats and scored 38pts, mixing in some spread that featured Ronny Brown of all people running and throwing wild.

So the spread is cool and cutting edge and is now getting some more pub in the NFL as well as HS and college.

___________

As far as the general line of &quot;Rich Rod is a mercenary not the sort of Michigan Man I want&quot; line of thinking that is so pervasive -- fuck that noise.  You know what Rich Rod is: he&#039;s one of those flyover land swing voters that might read &quot;No Country for Old Men&quot; as his favorite novel this year, ok, well -- this decade.  He&#039;s kinda an &quot;aw shucks&quot; kinda hick.  But he isn&#039;t teaching epistemology or discrete math this quarter, but football.

Lloyd was a tremendous sort of bookish guy -- but in the last few years he wasn&#039;t very good at winning football games.  I&#039;ll gladly trade a couple of Kipling quotes for a few more wins against OSU.

There have been legit concerns with Rich Rod throwing tradition to the wind (the jersey thing being pretty bad), but he&#039;s also restored things like the march to the Stadium.  He&#039;s made a genuine effort to learn about Michigan tradition.  And if he restores the best one -- winning football games at a  80% clip -- all else will be forgiven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Litty:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m more of a baseball guy myself, but do enjoy breaking down some football Xs and Os from time to time.  </p>
<p>The spread works well in college because many teams simply don&#8217;t have the depth to field 5-6 guys on the field that can run (and shuck blockers and tackle well enough at the same time) to hang with an offense that is putting 5 or 6 fast little buggers out there &#8212; including the QB.  Combined with the nascent not-yet-professional versions of many college defensive lineman (not quite fast enough yet) it allows for a QB to get adequate time to exploit the mismatches all over the field or to take off running when everyone is worried about the 5 guys running routes.</p>
<p>In the pros it&#8217;s rare to see a defense that doesn&#8217;t have a plethora of guys that can play the run well and that also run 4.5 forties with all the necessary quickness to stop a run and passing attack.  And so the conventional wisdom has been that a spread offense&#8217;s strengths are mostly nullified in the NFL.  </p>
<p>But a funny thing has started happening: teams are running it anyway &#8212; and having success.  The Patriots are an unfair example, blessed with so much talent (both on the field and on the sidelines), but still they perfected a pass happy version of the spread last year and set all sorts of records in the process.  Sure Tom Brady still lined &#8216;em up in the pro-set and I-form sometimes &#8212; but most of their success was from the 3-4-5 wide shotgun.</p>
<p>This past week the Dolphins turned the tables on the Pats and scored 38pts, mixing in some spread that featured Ronny Brown of all people running and throwing wild.</p>
<p>So the spread is cool and cutting edge and is now getting some more pub in the NFL as well as HS and college.</p>
<p>___________</p>
<p>As far as the general line of &#8220;Rich Rod is a mercenary not the sort of Michigan Man I want&#8221; line of thinking that is so pervasive &#8212; fuck that noise.  You know what Rich Rod is: he&#8217;s one of those flyover land swing voters that might read &#8220;No Country for Old Men&#8221; as his favorite novel this year, ok, well &#8212; this decade.  He&#8217;s kinda an &#8220;aw shucks&#8221; kinda hick.  But he isn&#8217;t teaching epistemology or discrete math this quarter, but football.</p>
<p>Lloyd was a tremendous sort of bookish guy &#8212; but in the last few years he wasn&#8217;t very good at winning football games.  I&#8217;ll gladly trade a couple of Kipling quotes for a few more wins against OSU.</p>
<p>There have been legit concerns with Rich Rod throwing tradition to the wind (the jersey thing being pretty bad), but he&#8217;s also restored things like the march to the Stadium.  He&#8217;s made a genuine effort to learn about Michigan tradition.  And if he restores the best one &#8212; winning football games at a  80% clip &#8212; all else will be forgiven.</p>
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		<title>By: Litty</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.littyhoops.com/2008/09/22/dick-rodded/comment-page-1/#comment-808</link>
		<dc:creator>Litty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, nice to meet you too and welcome to the blog.  I guess there is a reason they don&#039;t call me LittyPigskins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, nice to meet you too and welcome to the blog.  I guess there is a reason they don&#8217;t call me LittyPigskins.</p>
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		<title>By: MattNYC</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.littyhoops.com/2008/09/22/dick-rodded/comment-page-1/#comment-807</link>
		<dc:creator>MattNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh, are you sure you are a UM fan?  There is so much wrong here that it&#039;s difficult to find a good starting point.

First off, the &quot;spread offense&quot; is not some gimmick that only &quot;gimmicky&quot; teams run.  This is the offense that Florida won a national championship with.  The same school coached by some Urban Meyer guy that was rumored to be a candidate for the Michigan job -- had Carr retired when Meyer was not yet at Florida.

The spread offense is fucking awesome.  It&#039;s not some gimmick.  This is the same offense that Tim Couch broke all those college records with.  The same offense that Tom Brady led a pass-happy version of to rerite the NFL record books last year.

Rich Rod did not &quot;run off&quot; AA and Mallett and Manningham and Boren.  The writing was already on the wall for AA and Manninham and Mallett.  Carr had already put Mallett on thin ice, and there was serious rumblings within the program that Mallett was a heavy drinker who rubbed almost all the upperclassman the wrong way.  As for AA and Mario, both of those guys were Lloyd recruits that would have beeen hard pressed to help there draft stock by staying another year in a brand new offense.  They chose to leave as a career decision, they weren&#039;t &quot;run off&quot;.

Boren?  His &quot;family values&quot; statement doesn&#039;t hold up in light of the fact that his brother went to OSU and that several recruits (Including on everyone&#039;s list Craig Roh) have cited the &quot;family atmosphere&quot; at UM as a factor in their commitment.  Boren wanted to transfer and used the coaching change as an excuse.

As for the &quot;lowering the bar&quot; statement -- how you like that irony?  Lloyd &quot;8-4&quot; Carr was fine when Cooper was at OSU, but losing to OSU 3 years straight, coupled with embarrassing losses (App State, USC and Texas in the rose bowl) had already lowered the bar.

You really should start reading MGBLOG and less Jim Carty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh, are you sure you are a UM fan?  There is so much wrong here that it&#8217;s difficult to find a good starting point.</p>
<p>First off, the &#8220;spread offense&#8221; is not some gimmick that only &#8220;gimmicky&#8221; teams run.  This is the offense that Florida won a national championship with.  The same school coached by some Urban Meyer guy that was rumored to be a candidate for the Michigan job &#8212; had Carr retired when Meyer was not yet at Florida.</p>
<p>The spread offense is fucking awesome.  It&#8217;s not some gimmick.  This is the same offense that Tim Couch broke all those college records with.  The same offense that Tom Brady led a pass-happy version of to rerite the NFL record books last year.</p>
<p>Rich Rod did not &#8220;run off&#8221; AA and Mallett and Manningham and Boren.  The writing was already on the wall for AA and Manninham and Mallett.  Carr had already put Mallett on thin ice, and there was serious rumblings within the program that Mallett was a heavy drinker who rubbed almost all the upperclassman the wrong way.  As for AA and Mario, both of those guys were Lloyd recruits that would have beeen hard pressed to help there draft stock by staying another year in a brand new offense.  They chose to leave as a career decision, they weren&#8217;t &#8220;run off&#8221;.</p>
<p>Boren?  His &#8220;family values&#8221; statement doesn&#8217;t hold up in light of the fact that his brother went to OSU and that several recruits (Including on everyone&#8217;s list Craig Roh) have cited the &#8220;family atmosphere&#8221; at UM as a factor in their commitment.  Boren wanted to transfer and used the coaching change as an excuse.</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;lowering the bar&#8221; statement &#8212; how you like that irony?  Lloyd &#8220;8-4&#8243; Carr was fine when Cooper was at OSU, but losing to OSU 3 years straight, coupled with embarrassing losses (App State, USC and Texas in the rose bowl) had already lowered the bar.</p>
<p>You really should start reading MGBLOG and less Jim Carty.</p>
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